I mean, I would agree with the “scrappy” part, and I would agree that we are like crackheads for scoops. So I’m curious, is that a fair way to talk about the Beast now? Like, how do you think of yourselves? In the media ecosystem, where do you fit in among the competitors? But with that kind of comes the risk of all that comes with being a smaller, scrappier outlet. You know, you prize scoops big and small. You sort of have fewer resources than the competition. He brought up a point, that he feels like you guys are kind of like BuzzFeed News maybe circa 2012, where you’re scrappy, you take these big swings. You know my boss over at BuzzFeed News, Ben Smith, and I was telling him that I was coming to interview you. Our listeners probably know the Beast from its mix of reporting on everything from politics to national security, White House, pop culture. So, the Daily Beast just celebrated its 10-year anniversary. This week, I’m here with Noah Shachtman, the editor in chief of the Daily Beast. You might have heard my interview with Matt Taibbi a couple weeks back. Today I’m really excited to be back in the studio. I’m a media and politics reporter at BuzzFeed News, but I’m here at Vox Media Studios today in New York City. Steven Perlberg: This is Recode Media, from the Vox Media Podcast Network. You can listen to Recode Media wherever you get your podcasts - including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Pocket Casts and Overcast.īelow, we’ve shared a full transcript of Steven’s conversation with Noah. We don’t give zero fucks, but we don’t give that many fucks.” We really like the fun and we don’t give that many fucks. “I think that we like to embrace the gonzo and that Gawker was an inheritor of that gonzo spirit that didn’t originate with Gawker, but that they carried that mantle for a little while,” Shachtman said. However, we’re an awesome outlet to leak to.”Ĭalling the site a “high-end tabloid,” he said he admired the IAC-owned site’s ability to “take a side and throw a punch and call bullshit on the things that need to be called bullshit on.” But he’s also glad to be “owned by one of these giant globo-corps” for the inevitable legal threats that are thrown at the Daily Beast, like the Peter Thiel-engineered lawsuit that took down Gawker. “We’re just gonna bite the hand off if you spoon-feed us. “They all know we’re a bunch of velociraptors around here,” Shachtman said. The 10-year-old site has long prided itself on its scrappy, skeptical attitude. Plus, he told guest host Steven Perlberg, he doesn’t expect political sources to trade intel to the Daily Beast anyway. Like, more than advancing any policy, and more than anything, is these guys want to stab each other in the back, these guys in the Trump administration.” “Number two, you better have some sources, right? And luckily number three is, in this administration. “Fuck access journalism, number one,” Shachtman said on the latest episode of Recode Media. Noah Shachtman, the editor in chief of the Daily Beast, has three rules about covering the Trump administration.
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